Comments on: Vanessa Stout and Cindy Stankoski http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/ Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:09:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Skeptic http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-4057 Skeptic Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:04:59 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-4057 Have you read the latest Dispatch story: Co-workers' complaints AG scandal's two accusers now accused Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:19 AM http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/07/17/AG21.ART_ART_07-17-08_A1_N4AP9GH.html?sid=101 Sounds like the AG's office needs to invest in a supply of pacifiers since these two girls (Saxton and Haske) can't type while sucking on their thumbs. What a bunch of crap this is. And where is the department's supervisor or manager...he/she should be fired for not being able to control his subordinates and allowing petty crap like this to even take place. I think Saxton and Haske are so pissed off they didn't come forward with their own harassment charges against Gutierrez in their testimonies to Ben Espy that they are now looking for attention any way they can get it. Even though you lied under oath girls, get a backbone and tell the truth about the harassment you endured and stop whining about being given dirty looks or whatever else you are claiming here...it's petty and childish - reminds me of elementary school when I would hear girls cry because other more popular or prettier girls didn't want to be their friends. Grow up. Have you read the latest Dispatch story:

Co-workers’ complaints
AG scandal’s two accusers now accused
Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:19 AM

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/07/17/AG21.ART_ART_07-17-08_A1_N4AP9GH.html?sid=101

Sounds like the AG’s office needs to invest in a supply of pacifiers since these two girls (Saxton and Haske) can’t type while sucking on their thumbs. What a bunch of crap this is. And where is the department’s supervisor or manager…he/she should be fired for not being able to control his subordinates and allowing petty crap like this to even take place.

I think Saxton and Haske are so pissed off they didn’t come forward with their own harassment charges against Gutierrez in their testimonies to Ben Espy that they are now looking for attention any way they can get it. Even though you lied under oath girls, get a backbone and tell the truth about the harassment you endured and stop whining about being given dirty looks or whatever else you are claiming here…it’s petty and childish - reminds me of elementary school when I would hear girls cry because other more popular or prettier girls didn’t want to be their friends. Grow up.

]]> By: a concerned citizen http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3996 a concerned citizen Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:31:47 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3996 one more thing jane, can u predict rape? can u tell that far into the future when someone is going to try and take advantage of you? and why do you have to be a saint to get justice? ARe you saying this whole thing didn't affect her life? Is it fair to say she deserves to be treated like trash because someone tried to make a move while she was passed out? can we treat you in this manner? maybe its just me but I'm pretty sure she didn't want to get involved in something like this but when it happens to you what choice do you have? I suppose you're ok with people who use date rape drugs on women as well. Also, I'm pretty sure she did exactly what you said, she got out, she walked away, and then she got legal counseling. Are you just looking for an argument here or what? p.s. last time i checked, as long as your over 21 your allowed to drink as much as you want, in reference to the story about her passed out in a car. First off, she was in the backseat, better than being in the driver seat right? second off, ever think maybe they were just chilling in the car because they were all too drunk to drive anywhere? and again, does that mean its an open invitation for any guy out there simply because she drinks? third off, did u ever stop and think maybe the two men might have been friends, or a boyfriend and an acquaintance possibly? one more thing jane, can u predict rape? can u tell that far into the future when someone is going to try and take advantage of you? and why do you have to be a saint to get justice? ARe you saying this whole thing didn’t affect her life? Is it fair to say she deserves to be treated like trash because someone tried to make a move while she was passed out? can we treat you in this manner? maybe its just me but I’m pretty sure she didn’t want to get involved in something like this but when it happens to you what choice do you have? I suppose you’re ok with people who use date rape drugs on women as well. Also, I’m pretty sure she did exactly what you said, she got out, she walked away, and then she got legal counseling. Are you just looking for an argument here or what? p.s. last time i checked, as long as your over 21 your allowed to drink as much as you want, in reference to the story about her passed out in a car. First off, she was in the backseat, better than being in the driver seat right? second off, ever think maybe they were just chilling in the car because they were all too drunk to drive anywhere? and again, does that mean its an open invitation for any guy out there simply because she drinks? third off, did u ever stop and think maybe the two men might have been friends, or a boyfriend and an acquaintance possibly?

]]> By: a concerned citizen http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3995 a concerned citizen Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:14:32 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3995 Wow, I didn't realize rape or attempted rape was so accepted amongst some of you people. How would you like it if you went out for a few drinks or whatever with some people from work, and they drugged you up and u wake up to one of them trying to unbutton your pants. Even if she is a party girl, I personally don't know if she is or not, but is that an open invitation to be raped by anyone who wants a piece? Why are these men not charged with sex crimes? I know people who've gotten themselves on that list for much less. Her life is a media circus all because she decided to hang out with some people from her new job, sounds pretty fair right? burn her at the stake shall we? Jane, and anyone else who has said she deserved it, etc...i don't want to say i hope this happens to you, but I kinda do, so that when it hits the news I can post a comment that says how much you deserved it and how I hope you never work again, etc....also I'd like to bring every mistake you've ever made to the public's attention. thats fair right? By the way, what kind of politician shares a condo with 3 other grown men at age 30 or 40 or however old these guys were. Wow, I didn’t realize rape or attempted rape was so accepted amongst some of you people. How would you like it if you went out for a few drinks or whatever with some people from work, and they drugged you up and u wake up to one of them trying to unbutton your pants. Even if she is a party girl, I personally don’t know if she is or not, but is that an open invitation to be raped by anyone who wants a piece? Why are these men not charged with sex crimes? I know people who’ve gotten themselves on that list for much less. Her life is a media circus all because she decided to hang out with some people from her new job, sounds pretty fair right? burn her at the stake shall we? Jane, and anyone else who has said she deserved it, etc…i don’t want to say i hope this happens to you, but I kinda do, so that when it hits the news I can post a comment that says how much you deserved it and how I hope you never work again, etc….also I’d like to bring every mistake you’ve ever made to the public’s attention. thats fair right? By the way, what kind of politician shares a condo with 3 other grown men at age 30 or 40 or however old these guys were.

]]> By: Aunt of one of the Girls http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3771 Aunt of one of the Girls Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:48:30 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3771 Jane, Obviously you don't realize these men were breaking the law! Jane, Obviously you don’t realize these men were breaking the law!

]]> By: Jane http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3629 Jane Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:35:12 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3629 If you're going to open up a can of worms, you best 1. be ready to deal with 'the hollywod press' 2. be ready to air all of your dirty laundry 3. be telling all of the truth. These were serious accusations whether they be fabricated or not, that effected peoples lives, marriages, children, jobs......think before you jump into something like this. I'm just saying unless you ARE a saint, get out, walk away, then seek legal counseling. We all have that choice no matter what the horrible situations and management we have to deal with sometimes these days in corporate america. I wonder why this wasn't reported to ethics long ago to TRY and stop it in it's tracks...maybe it was I just haven't seen anything referencing. If you’re going to open up a can of worms, you best 1. be ready to deal with ‘the hollywod press’ 2. be ready to air all of your dirty laundry 3. be telling all of the truth. These were serious accusations whether they be fabricated or not, that effected peoples lives, marriages, children, jobs……think before you jump into something like this. I’m just saying unless you ARE a saint, get out, walk away, then seek legal counseling. We all have that choice no matter what the horrible situations and management we have to deal with sometimes these days in corporate america. I wonder why this wasn’t reported to ethics long ago to TRY and stop it in it’s tracks…maybe it was I just haven’t seen anything referencing.

]]> By: Aunt of one of the Girls http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3421 Aunt of one of the Girls Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:38:05 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3421 Jane, again you don't know the whole story. Vanessa can't seem to go anywhere, that the local press isn't following her. This is getting as bad as Hollywood press, and I imagine it is just as exaggerated!! I believe that State of Ohio is following her too! I guess you Jane, have been selected for Sainthood? Which I seriously doubt since you are such a vidictive and judgemental person! Just remember what goes around comes around! And why the hell to you care so much? It really makes me wonder who the hell you are??????????????? Jane, again you don’t know the whole story. Vanessa can’t seem to go anywhere, that the local press isn’t following her. This is getting as bad as Hollywood press, and I imagine it is just as exaggerated!! I believe that State of Ohio is following her too! I guess you Jane, have been selected for Sainthood? Which I seriously doubt since you are such a vidictive and judgemental person! Just remember what goes around comes around!

And why the hell to you care so much? It really makes me wonder who the hell you are???????????????

]]> By: Skeptic http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3360 Skeptic Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:34:59 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3360 You know what, she can have a hang nail and it would be called in and made look bad just because of who she is. I'm not saying she didn't make a mistake, all I'm saying is that it's being blown way out of proportion. You know what, she can have a hang nail and it would be called in and made look bad just because of who she is. I’m not saying she didn’t make a mistake, all I’m saying is that it’s being blown way out of proportion.

]]> By: Jane http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3359 Jane Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:03:04 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3359 Hmmmmmm...i guess time would tell, eh? From the Dispatch: DELAWARE, Ohio -- One of the two women at the heart of the sexual-harassment case that led to the downfall of former AG Marc Dann spent about two hours in the Delaware County Jail Sunday morning, reported NBC 4's Mike Bowersock Police said Stout was so drunk that she was unable to care for herself. Stout was passed out in the backseat of a vehicle at the Red Rock Café, 837 N. Houck Rd. off of state Route 37, according to police, when a patrolling officer drove through the lot. A man was in the vehicle with Stout, police said, and a third man stumbled out of the car and passed out onto the pavement intoxicated as officers arrived. What a nice young lady! Hmmmmmm…i guess time would tell, eh?

From the Dispatch:

DELAWARE, Ohio — One of the two women at the heart of the sexual-harassment case that led to the downfall of former AG Marc Dann spent about two hours in the Delaware County Jail Sunday morning, reported NBC 4’s Mike Bowersock

Police said Stout was so drunk that she was unable to care for herself.

Stout was passed out in the backseat of a vehicle at the Red Rock Café, 837 N. Houck Rd. off of state Route 37, according to police, when a patrolling officer drove through the lot.

A man was in the vehicle with Stout, police said, and a third man stumbled out of the car and passed out onto the pavement intoxicated as officers arrived.

What a nice young lady!

]]> By: Skeptic http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3331 Skeptic Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:21:31 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3331 And the plot thickens - see tonight's ABC news coverage of Jennifer Urben's own sexual harassment allegations against Leo Jennings and Anthony Gutierrez: here: http://www.wsyx6.com/shared/newsroom/ag/wsyx_vid_35.shtml and here: http://www.wsyx6.com/shared/newsroom/ag/wsyx_vid_36.shtml I would have to go back and read her testimony again, but I sure don't remember reading anything about any of this in that document. Does that mean she lied under oath? And the plot thickens - see tonight’s ABC news coverage of Jennifer Urben’s own sexual harassment allegations against Leo Jennings and Anthony Gutierrez:

here: http://www.wsyx6.com/shared/newsroom/ag/wsyx_vid_35.shtml

and

here: http://www.wsyx6.com/shared/newsroom/ag/wsyx_vid_36.shtml

I would have to go back and read her testimony again, but I sure don’t remember reading anything about any of this in that document. Does that mean she lied under oath?

]]> By: Skeptic http://www.naugblog.com/2008/04/12/vanessa-stout-and-cindy-stankoski/#comment-3262 Skeptic Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:34:48 +0000 http://www.naugblog.com/?p=100#comment-3262 Aunt - you have every right to be proud of your niece for getting her life together, raising her kids, working, and making her own way in the world. Good for her. And having her GED is the same as having her high school diploma, so these people that are stuck on why she got a state job without a high school diploma need to SHUT their mouths now. As far as having a record, you are right, she made a mistake when she was younger, she paid for it, it's unfortunate that she continues to pay for it every time her record is checked; and checked it was when she was hired to work for the AG's office. She didn't twist anybody's arm, she was offered a hand and she took it - why wouldn't she? I would if someone was offering me a helping hand. Everybody needs a break at least once in their lives and it was her time and she took it - GOOD FOR HER. Just because someone (and it happened that person was in a powerful position and was able to bend a few rules) gave her a break didn't mean that he had the right to take advantage of the situation by pressuring and harassing her for sex. Like I said in many of my previous posts - GIRLS - STAY STRONG, DON'T QUIT, THIS TOO SHALL PASS. Aunt - you have every right to be proud of your niece for getting her life together, raising her kids, working, and making her own way in the world. Good for her. And having her GED is the same as having her high school diploma, so these people that are stuck on why she got a state job without a high school diploma need to SHUT their mouths now. As far as having a record, you are right, she made a mistake when she was younger, she paid for it, it’s unfortunate that she continues to pay for it every time her record is checked; and checked it was when she was hired to work for the AG’s office. She didn’t twist anybody’s arm, she was offered a hand and she took it - why wouldn’t she? I would if someone was offering me a helping hand. Everybody needs a break at least once in their lives and it was her time and she took it - GOOD FOR HER. Just because someone (and it happened that person was in a powerful position and was able to bend a few rules) gave her a break didn’t mean that he had the right to take advantage of the situation by pressuring and harassing her for sex. Like I said in many of my previous posts - GIRLS - STAY STRONG, DON’T QUIT, THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

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