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	<title>Comments on: Dennis Kucinich Votes Against Boyscouts</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-4922</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real issue is that Kucinich, a devout Catholic, has embraced a lifestyle that is contrary to the moral standard of his district.  Given the amount of abuse that has ocurred with the Catholic Church, where homosexuals were placed in close contact with same sex children; it is good risk management to avoid proximity and liability.

The point here is Kucinich has no common sense. Kucinich is a disgrace to his office and the people of his district.
It is time top dump dopey Dennis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue is that Kucinich, a devout Catholic, has embraced a lifestyle that is contrary to the moral standard of his district.  Given the amount of abuse that has ocurred with the Catholic Church, where homosexuals were placed in close contact with same sex children; it is good risk management to avoid proximity and liability.</p>
<p>The point here is Kucinich has no common sense. Kucinich is a disgrace to his office and the people of his district.<br />
It is time top dump dopey Dennis.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1771</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Justice Department also found that in therms of child sexual abuse, there are 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender, with heterosexual violators of 19.8 girls... So in terms of offenses per offender, homosexual abuse is more frequent. Also, And even though gays make up about 2% of the population, homosexual pedophiles commit about 1/3 of the total number of child sex offenders.

In addition, a study conducted by Steve Baldwin of the Council for National Policy, Archives of Sexual Behavior, reported that some 86% of pedophiles describe themselves as homosexual and bisexual. Other surveys note that 7 out of 10 homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19.

Homosexual activists are all about destroying the concept that sex is reserved for only men in women who have taken a marriage vow before God. And it isn't a stretch for them to move from one sexual deviation (sex between two people of the same sex) and another (sex between an adult and a child).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Justice Department also found that in therms of child sexual abuse, there are 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender, with heterosexual violators of 19.8 girls&#8230; So in terms of offenses per offender, homosexual abuse is more frequent. Also, And even though gays make up about 2% of the population, homosexual pedophiles commit about 1/3 of the total number of child sex offenders.</p>
<p>In addition, a study conducted by Steve Baldwin of the Council for National Policy, Archives of Sexual Behavior, reported that some 86% of pedophiles describe themselves as homosexual and bisexual. Other surveys note that 7 out of 10 homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19.</p>
<p>Homosexual activists are all about destroying the concept that sex is reserved for only men in women who have taken a marriage vow before God. And it isn&#8217;t a stretch for them to move from one sexual deviation (sex between two people of the same sex) and another (sex between an adult and a child).</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I'm not going to change your mind about this with rational arguments.

Still, I feel like you should at least be aware that &lt;a href="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/saycrle.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;U.S. Department of Justice statistics&lt;/a&gt; of Sexual Assault of Young Children show that 98% of forcible rape victims are female and 93% of all rapists are male.

These stats hold true across the board and prove that pedophiles are NOT frequently homosexuals- they are almost always heterosexual.

At least we can agree that the boy scouts is a good organization but maybe we shouldn't be wasting tax dollars making coins in their honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m not going to change your mind about this with rational arguments.</p>
<p>Still, I feel like you should at least be aware that <a href="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/saycrle.htm" rel="nofollow">U.S. Department of Justice statistics</a> of Sexual Assault of Young Children show that 98% of forcible rape victims are female and 93% of all rapists are male.</p>
<p>These stats hold true across the board and prove that pedophiles are NOT frequently homosexuals- they are almost always heterosexual.</p>
<p>At least we can agree that the boy scouts is a good organization but maybe we shouldn&#8217;t be wasting tax dollars making coins in their honor.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homosexuals are not pedophiles, but pedophiles are frequently homosexuals. And when one is a sexual deviant, it isn't too much of a stretch to move between one sexual deviation and another. Homosexuals are very promiscuous, which is why it's quite funny for all of these well-funded lobbying groups to pretend gays care about getting married and settling down. 

Well they can't be around girls anyway, since girls aren't typically part of the membership of the Boy Scouts.

Being a practicing homosexual is a choice. If that choice isn't made, that person isn't a homosexual and thus may be qualified to be a scout leader. But parents are completely justified in not wanting someone who is attracted to males to lead scouts on a camping trip or hike. Of course, some gays could sneak through the screening process, but it's still a good general rule of thumb to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homosexuals are not pedophiles, but pedophiles are frequently homosexuals. And when one is a sexual deviant, it isn&#8217;t too much of a stretch to move between one sexual deviation and another. Homosexuals are very promiscuous, which is why it&#8217;s quite funny for all of these well-funded lobbying groups to pretend gays care about getting married and settling down. </p>
<p>Well they can&#8217;t be around girls anyway, since girls aren&#8217;t typically part of the membership of the Boy Scouts.</p>
<p>Being a practicing homosexual is a choice. If that choice isn&#8217;t made, that person isn&#8217;t a homosexual and thus may be qualified to be a scout leader. But parents are completely justified in not wanting someone who is attracted to males to lead scouts on a camping trip or hike. Of course, some gays could sneak through the screening process, but it&#8217;s still a good general rule of thumb to have.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I understand we'll never agree on this issue until you actually get a gay friend and realize that they are just normal guys (or gals) trying to make their way in life just like you are.

Homosexuals have no more desire to destroy "the moral fabric of society" than you do.

I'm not much for bible quotes, but Matthew 7.1 seems to fit here:

   Judge not, that ye be not judged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I understand we&#8217;ll never agree on this issue until you actually get a gay friend and realize that they are just normal guys (or gals) trying to make their way in life just like you are.</p>
<p>Homosexuals have no more desire to destroy &#8220;the moral fabric of society&#8221; than you do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not much for bible quotes, but Matthew 7.1 seems to fit here:</p>
<p>   Judge not, that ye be not judged.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn't even thinking about the adult leaders.  I was thinking about the members.  The scouts themselves.

But either way- I understand that you might think that homosexuality is wrong- but let's be clear here:  Homosexuals are not pedophiles.

Sure- having an anti-pedophile rules certainly makes sense- for "safety".

But saying that adult males who happen to be gay can't be around boys is just as silly as saying adult males who happen not to be gay can't be around girls.

It's a ridiculous argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t even thinking about the adult leaders.  I was thinking about the members.  The scouts themselves.</p>
<p>But either way- I understand that you might think that homosexuality is wrong- but let&#8217;s be clear here:  Homosexuals are not pedophiles.</p>
<p>Sure- having an anti-pedophile rules certainly makes sense- for &#8220;safety&#8221;.</p>
<p>But saying that adult males who happen to be gay can&#8217;t be around boys is just as silly as saying adult males who happen not to be gay can&#8217;t be around girls.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a ridiculous argument.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gay policy is good for safety, and if they scouts didn't have this rule then I would want them held liable for any sexual abuse problems. Plus, practicing homosexuals are are lacking the moral principles which the boy scouts are all about. Boy scouts, just like Christians, believe that homosexuals are called to a life of chastity. And if that leader is chase and doesn't "date" men, then that person is not homosexual and thus have a chance of being a scout leader.

It is perfectly constitutional for a traditionalist organization like the boy scouts to demand that their leadership abide by their moral guidelines. Just because you lefties have no problem with destroying the moral fabric of society, keep your grubby hands off a rare refuge from the filth which surrounds today's youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gay policy is good for safety, and if they scouts didn&#8217;t have this rule then I would want them held liable for any sexual abuse problems. Plus, practicing homosexuals are are lacking the moral principles which the boy scouts are all about. Boy scouts, just like Christians, believe that homosexuals are called to a life of chastity. And if that leader is chase and doesn&#8217;t &#8220;date&#8221; men, then that person is not homosexual and thus have a chance of being a scout leader.</p>
<p>It is perfectly constitutional for a traditionalist organization like the boy scouts to demand that their leadership abide by their moral guidelines. Just because you lefties have no problem with destroying the moral fabric of society, keep your grubby hands off a rare refuge from the filth which surrounds today&#8217;s youth.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent a good part of my childhood in Boy Scouts (evening earning the rank of Eagle Scout).  And I still think they are a great organization despite some of the bad choices made by their national leadership regarding their anti-gay policies and their "you can't be an athiest" rule.

At the local level- these policies have very little impact on the troops themselves.  At the local level- Boy Scouts takes everyone regardless of their political or religious beliefs.

And that's what is great about it.  The quality of the experience depends entirely on the quality of the local volunteers - something I got very lucky with.

But nationally, the organization has the appearance of being biased.  And biased in such a way that appeals to social conservatives and pisses off the rest of us who think that the policies of our government and our youth organizations should not judge their citizens or their members based on religion or sexual preference.

I'd be all in favor of honoring local Boy Scount leaders - but the national organization needs some new leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a good part of my childhood in Boy Scouts (evening earning the rank of Eagle Scout).  And I still think they are a great organization despite some of the bad choices made by their national leadership regarding their anti-gay policies and their &#8220;you can&#8217;t be an athiest&#8221; rule.</p>
<p>At the local level- these policies have very little impact on the troops themselves.  At the local level- Boy Scouts takes everyone regardless of their political or religious beliefs.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what is great about it.  The quality of the experience depends entirely on the quality of the local volunteers - something I got very lucky with.</p>
<p>But nationally, the organization has the appearance of being biased.  And biased in such a way that appeals to social conservatives and pisses off the rest of us who think that the policies of our government and our youth organizations should not judge their citizens or their members based on religion or sexual preference.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be all in favor of honoring local Boy Scount leaders - but the national organization needs some new leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn't important, and I'm generally opposed to any such resolutions being sponsored at all, Joe. But Trakas has a point, because it's very telling that Kucinich is so in bed with left wing crazies that he has to vote against such a resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t important, and I&#8217;m generally opposed to any such resolutions being sponsored at all, Joe. But Trakas has a point, because it&#8217;s very telling that Kucinich is so in bed with left wing crazies that he has to vote against such a resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.naugblog.com/2008/05/18/dennis-kucinich-votes-against-boyscouts/#comment-1756</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was so important, why didn't John Boehner (and 11 other Republicans) show up to vote for this bill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was so important, why didn&#8217;t John Boehner (and 11 other Republicans) show up to vote for this bill?</p>
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